SPIRITUALITY SCIENCE – THE CONCEPT OF AL-ALEEM – THE KNOWER OF ALL THINGS

( “Wa huwa bikulli shayin’ aleem”)

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Islam is true religion for it claims that God alone Knows All things. Fundamentally, man cannot know the Final Truth, the Ultimate Reality. Man’s existence is conditioned; the conditioning influence is called ‘Grand Illusion’. Man exists under the protective shield of Illusion which blocks both mental and sensory perceptions. Man shares his Perspective of Truth while deriving Protection under shield of Grand Illusion. Man’s Power of Imagination cannot free man from problems of Perception imposed by Natural, Fundamental Forces such as Light or Gravitation. Man is always conditioned by aging process which impairs man’s cognitive abilities under the influence of Time.

For man can never, ever know all things, man must not boast about his Knowledge or Wisdom. Man only knows God through God’s Kindness, Justice, and Righteousness.

Rudranarasimham Rebbapragada
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-4162 USA
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From: Devinder Singh Gulati

Again, the Qur’an argues that the knowledge of God as the creator of everything rules out the possibility of lesser gods since these beings must be themselves created. For the Qur’an, God is an immanent and transcendent deity who actively creates, maintains and destroys the universe. The reality of God as the ultimate cause of things is the belief that God is veiled from human understanding because of the secondary causes and contingent realities of things in the world.[This is the argument also of some Sikh scholars regarding the concept of God in Sikhism]. The belief in the oneness of God is equated in the Qur’an with the “belief in the unseen” (Surah 2:3).

According to Hossein Nasser, Ali, the first Imam of Shia and fourth Rashid Caliph states that “God is One” means that God is away from likeness and numeration and he is not divisible even in imagination.

Tanzih is an islamic religious concept meaning transcendence. In Islamic theology, two opposite terms are attributed to Allah: tanzih and tashbih. The latter means “nearness, closeness, accessibility”.
However, the fuller meaning of tanzih is ‘declaring incompatibility’, i.e. affirming Allah’s transcendent distance from humanity. This concept is eternally juxtaposed with Allah’s tashbih (closeness, or ‘affirming similarity’). The Quran asserts the existence of a single and absolute truth that transcends the world; a unique, independent and indivisible being, who is independent of the entire creation.
Tawhid is the religion’s most fundamental concept and holds that God(Allah, literally Al-Ilāh “the God”) is One (Al-ʾAḥad) and Single (Al-Wāḥid).
Tawhid

How then do we reconcile immanence with tawhid in the Koran?
Immanence is described as permeation.
The immanence of the Koran says. He is near, yet far.

He does not permeate.

The problem here is; ‘where does creation come from?
From outside Allah!
What did he create from?
“Nothing”.

If nothing be outside God He has no mastery over it.
‘There is no place that Allah is not’.

To most Muslim scholars, the science of tawhid is the systematic theology through which a better knowledge of God may be reached, but to the Ṣūfīs, knowledge of God can be reached only through religious experience and direct vision.

Definition of tawhid

1. the Muslim doctrine of the oneness of God
2. Sufism : the union of the individual soul with God

Gulati

SPIRITUALITY SCIENCE – “La Illaha Illa Allahu” – THE CONCEPT OF ONLY ONE GOD

Islam is True Religion if it statements are interpreted using help from the Geological Time Chart. God is One as God’s Existence is independent of man’s existence during Geological Time Period called HOLOCENE Epoch.

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Human experience of God or Spirit or Soul is irrelevant in the context of describing One and Only God whose existence is not conditioned by human experience.

In Human Languages words and terms such as ‘Immortal’ and ‘Eternal’ are included while man has no mental or sensory experience of such States or Conditions of Existence. Man’s cognitive abilities are conditioned by his aging process. It is difficult for man to retain memory of his own lifetime events. In my analysis, man’s experience of Immortal or Eternal Soul, Spirit, or God is unlikely for man never existed on Earth apart from the most recent Geological Time Period. The concept of Only One God cannot be verified by human mental or sensory experience.

Rudranarasimham Rebbapragada
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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SPIRITUALITY SCIENCE – WHAT IS GOD’S LANGUAGE?

Holy Book of Quran, Surah Al-Hadeed, verse #3 reads: “huwal-Awwalu wal-Akhiru wath Tahiru wal Batinu.” It means:
HE IS THE FIRST; HE IS THE LAST; HE IS THE MANIFEST; HE IS THE HIDDEN.

It is ridiculous and preposterous to know God using Human Language. God is the First and God preceded arrival of man on Earth. Just like the Dinosaurs, man may have to depart from planet Earth and it does not mean God will be replaced.

Man has to examine God and Nature not in the context of Human Existence but in the context of Life prior to arrival of man on Earth. What is the Language in which God instructs Nature to make Creation a reality that man can perceive?

Rudranarasimham Rebbapragada
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From: Devinder Singh Gulati

We started this inquiry discussing the specific idea of true and false religion. False religion was stated to be that whose message is “that Allah may be worshipped in the form of His creation. But one who understands the message of Islam, which is the true religion would never concede to idolatry or the worship of another person. Allah is in all of us according to this false belief. But in the true religion, Allah and man are forever separate.” In the true religion, we concluded in the course of our discussion, there are two realities. They are Allah and his creation. The true religion does not talk of illusion of creation.

In the course of the inquiry we came up with a new fact. There were indeed at least two persons in history, Mansoor and Ramakrishna, who experienced unity rather than separation with Allah. With this discovery our starting statement stands falsified. So in accordance with the dialectic method we are forced to modify the starting statement if the inquiry is to move any further. There can no longer be the certainty that divinity does not descend into man or that Allah and man are forever separate. The assertion “Neither is Allah His creation or a part of it, nor is His creation Him or a part of Him” can no longer hold.

We agreed that our method of inquiry will not be the subjective method of mysticism, but the objective method of philosophy which is rational and scientific in nature. It is an intellectual method. In this method when we come up with a new fact we enlarge our inquiry to include that fact. Can we now conclude that a religion that worships creation is not necessarily false as premised in the starting statement, or do you have any objection to this reasoning. If you have an objection let us look at it and consider how it further changes our conclusion.

Next, it was premised that all religions other than Islam are false. The basis of this statement is that the name of God’s religion lslam was chosen by Allah Himself and clearly mentioned in His final revelation to man. In the final book of divine revelation, the Qur’aan, Allah states the following:

“This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion”. ( Surah Al-Maa’idah 5:3)

“If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah (God) never will It be accepted of Him” ( Surah Aal’imraan 3:85)

“Abraham was not a Jew nor Christian; but an upright Muslim.” ( Surah Aal’imraan 3:67)

The question to now consider here is, whose revelation is this. Is it Allah’s revelation to the prophet, or the prophet’s revelation to man?

That there was a revelation is not in doubt. What was the nature of the revelation? Was it in vision or speech? What was the consciousness of the receiver of the revelation. These are the questions that have been raised that need discussion. Obviously the prophet is not the knower of all things. “Fundamentally, man cannot know the Final Truth, the Ultimate Reality. Man exists under the protective shield of Illusion which blocks both mental and sensory perceptions.”

Man shares his Perspective of Truth while deriving Protection under shield of Grand Illusion. Man’s Power of Imagination cannot free man from problems of Perception imposed by Natural, Fundamental Forces like Light and Gravitation.

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SPIRITUALITY SCIENCE – BISMILLAH AR-RAHMAN AR-RAHEEM

Mr. Devinder Singh Gulati presented a philosophical argument and proceeded to its conclusion without any inquiry about its foundational idea. He shared a photo image of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs showing that man has physiological or basic needs.

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To begin the discussion, he has to describe those physiological needs to account for man’s satisfaction, satiation, or contentment when those needs are fulfilled.

Islam is True Religion for it says, “Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Raheem” to acknowledge God’s Unconditioned Love called Mercy and Compassion. Fundamentally, man’s physical existence depends upon God’s Grace, Mercy, and Compassion.

God’s Grace is sufficient for me and it meets all of my needs apart from physiological needs. Self-Realization, Self-Actualization and God-Realization simply means knowing God’s Grace, Mercy, and Compassion as True Knowledge of God.

Rudranarasimham Rebbapragada
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-4162 USA
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From: Devinder Singh Gulati

Philosophic argument aims at seeking truth. It brooks no a priori assumptions.

In the previous link we looked at one such assumption in the matter of false religion.

The argument offered however remained inconclusive.

A philosophic inquiry looks at all relevant facts and ties up the ideas.
The philosophic method connects up a procession of ideas.
In the process totality is embraced by constantly enlarging the inquiry.
It is a methodical process of reasoning.
Reasoning employs argument.

Every argument has three limbs.
1. Statement of a fact (idea).
2. Show the incompleteness of the fact (presence of another idea).
3. Arrive at judgement if that fact is properly related or not.

The judgement takes two forms.
1. Form of probability.
2. Form of conclusivity.

In the previous link an assumption was made about false religion:
The True Religion

The assumption was:
“Thus, it may be stated that the basic message of false religion is that Allah may be worshipped in the form of His creation.”

In the same link another idea was introduced:

When the idol worshipper is questioned as to why he or she bows down to idols created by men, the invariable reply is that they are not actually worshipping the stone image, but Allah who is present within it. They claim that the stone idol is only a focal point for Allah’s essence and is not in itself Allah! One who has accepted the concept of the presence of God’s being within His creation in any way will be obliged to accept this argument of idolatry. Whereas, one who understands the basic message of Islam and its implications would never concede to idolatry no matter how it is rationalized. Those who have claimed divinity for themselves down through the ages have often based their claims on the mistaken belief that Allah is present in man. They merely had to assert that although Allah according to their false beliefs, is in all of us, He is more present in them than in the rest of us. Hence, they claim, we should submit our will to them and worship them as they are either God in person or God concentrated within the person.
One who has grasped the basic message of Islam and its implications could never agree to worship another human being under any circumstances.


It was not argued on what rational basis the practice of idolatry is to be rejected except to say:

Thus, the final Prophet of Islam is reported to have said, “Any one who says: There is no god but Allah and dies holding that (belief) will enter paradise”.(Reported by Abu Dharr and collected by Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim).

There is as we can see no conclusion. The probability of divinity in the creation is left hanging, unresolved.
Sri Aurobindo, The Life Divine – Chapters 1 to 7, 21-26 April 2008 Part 5

Sri Aurobindo, The Life Divine – Chapters 1 to 7, 21-26 April 2008 Part 5 Sri Aurobindo’s, Life Divine

Gulati

Here is an assumption:

False religions all have in common one basic concept with regards to Allah. They either claim that all men are gods or that specific men were Allah or that nature is Allah or that Allah is a figment of man’s imagination.
Thus, it may be stated that the basic message of false religion is that Allah may be worshipped in the form of His creation. False religion invites man to the worship of creation by calling the creation or some aspect of it God. For example, prophet Jesus invited his followers to worship Allah but those who claim to be his followers today call people to worship Jesus, claiming that he was Allah!
Buddha was a reformer who introduced a number of humanistic principles to the religion of India. He did not claim to be God nor did he suggest to his followers that he be an object of worship. Yet, today most Buddhists who are to be found outside of India have taken him to be God and prostrate to idols made in their perception of his likeness.
By using the principle of identifying the object of worship, false religion becomes very obvious and the contrived nature of their origin clear. As God said in the Our’aan:
That which you worship besides Him are only names you and your forefathers have invented for which Allah has sent down no authority: The command belongs only to Allah:
He has commanded that you only worship Him; that is the right religion, but most men do not understand “. (Soorah Yoosuf 12:40)


Consequently, the worship of creation, which is the essence of idolatry, is the only unforgivable sin. One who dies in this state of idolatry has sealed his fate in the next life. This is not an opinion, but a revealed fact stated by Allah in his final revelation to man:

“Verily Allah will not forgive the joining of partners with Him, but He may forgive (sins) less than that for whom so ever He wishes”(Soorah An- Nisaa 4:48 and 116)

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The assumption here is that only Islam is true and the entire argument aims at proving that all other religions are false.
It is not an exercise into inquiring “what is true”.

Where does this argument originate?
It originates in the Koran:
[5:44] We have sent down the Torah,* containing guidance and light. Ruling in accordance with it were the Jewish prophets, as well as the rabbis and the priests, as dictated to them in GOD‘s scripture, and as witnessed by them. Therefore, do not reverence human beings; you shall reverence Me instead. And do not trade away My revelations for a cheap price. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD‘s revelations, are the disbelievers.
[5:45] And we decreed for them in it that: the life for the life, the eye for the eye, the nose for the nose, the ear for the ear, the tooth for the tooth, and an equivalent injury for any injury. If one forfeits what is due to him as a charity, it will atone for his sins. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD‘s revelations are the unjust.
[5:46] Subsequent to them, we sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the previous scripture, the Torah. We gave him the Gospel, containing guidance and light, and confirming the previous scriptures, the Torah, and augmenting its guidance and light, and to enlighten the righteous.
[5:47] The people of the Gospel shall rule in accordance with GOD‘s revelations therein. Those who do not rule in accordance with GOD‘s revelations are the wicked.
[5:48] Then we revealed to you this scripture, truthfully, confirming previous scriptures, and superseding them. You shall rule among them in accordance with GOD‘s revelations, and do not follow their wishes if they differ from the truth that came to you. For each of you, we have decreed laws and different rites. Had GOD willed, He could have made you one congregation. But He thus puts you to the test through the revelations He has given each of you. You shall compete in righteousness. To GOD is your final destiny—all of you—then He will inform you of everything you had disputed.
[5:49] You shall rule among them in accordance with GOD‘s revelations to you. Do not follow their wishes, and beware lest they divert you from some of GOD‘s revelations to you. If they turn away, then know that GOD wills to punish them for some of their sins. Indeed, many people are wicked.
[5:50] Is it the law of the days of ignorance that they seek to uphold? Whose law is better than GOD‘s for those who have attained certainty?
http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/noframes/ch5.html

The entire drift here is; you are intended to prevail over all other religions for yours alone is the true religion.
It is this aspect that the Khudai Khidmatgar must concentrate on,… reforming untrue belief.
They have burdened themselves with superficial work.
They make statements quite contrary to the the spirit of Koran, perhaps deliberately.
“Faisal khan expressed his deep sorrow over the killings of innocent people in Pakistan. He further added that the Terrorism is not pertinent to any particular religion or community but comes from the brainwashing of some people by the power hungry men. He also said that the best way to be secure from the menace of terrorism is to spread love and brotherhood in the society.”

It is evident that terrorism flows directly from the teaching of the Koran.
[5:51] O you who believe, do not take certain Jews and Christians as allies; these are allies of one another. Those among you who ally themselves with these belong with them. GOD does not guide the transgressors.


Faisal must concentrate on the essential.
The essential is reform of Islam.
That is the way to spread love and brotherhood.

Gulati

There are two basic tracts of facts. There are physical facts and psychological facts.

You are accounting only for the physical in saying: Essence (What You Are) is known by What You Do to support the fact of Existence.
Man’s Existence demands verification also of the basis of his psychology.
You are not dealing with psychology at all.
Your statement cannot be said to be philosophical statement since it limps on one side.
You are relating only one side.

The concept of essence, what is it?
What is essential.
What is ultimate?
You cannot find it without totality.

You start your search with an assumption:

Man’s Essence demands verification of the basis of his Existence.
And existence you assume to be physical.

Even “there is essence” is an assumption.
In short you are being incorrigible.
You are saying your thinking cannot be bettered.

You are being arbitrary.

The argument lacks rationality.
You are not asking the question “what is reason for life”.

Sri Aurobindo, The Life Divine – Chapters 1 to 7, 21-26 April 2008 Part 2

Sri Aurobindo, The Life Divine – Chapters 1 to 7, 21-26 April 2008 Part 2 Sri Aurobindo’s, Life Divine

Gulati

On Sunday, 5 March 2017 8:55 PM, R.Rudranarasimham wrote:

Spirituality Science – Essence and Existence – Chidambara Rahasyam

The view shared is not consistent with reality as the concept of has no correspondence with the fact of thing that exists. Essence (What You Are) is known by What You Do to support the fact of Existence.

Man’s Essence demands verification of the basis of his Existence. If man leads terrestrial existence, man cannot have universal existence. The issue of man’s Constitution and Essence has to be verified by study of Regulative mechanisms that operate man’s physical existence in earthly domain.

My Unit Commander, Lieutenant Colonel B K Narayan performed Hajj without accepting religious conversion. He served in the Regiment of Artillery but conducted an Infantry style assault on Enemy during 1971 War. He conducted Friday Worship Service for the entire Muslim community of Kaptai officiating as the Priest. He worked in JNU teaching Arabic Language and later served in Bahrain as Official Translator for their Department of National Archives. While he served in Egypt, both President Nasser and President Sadat treated him as their personal friend and valued his Islamic Scholarship.

Rudranarasimham Rebbapragada
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From: Devinder singh Gulati

One of the best ways of understanding the Transcendental is to understand the concept of essence. One of the examples given to understand the word essence is: gold is the same in this ornament or that ornament; the two ornaments differ from each other not in the goldness but in the form of the ornaments. There is a distinction between the essence of the ornament and the form of the ornament. Even if in the ornament the forms are broken the gold remains, just as when a pot may be broken, the form may be broken but the clay remains. So the Transcendental is that which is the essence, which always remains what it is, which may take many forms but which is not depending upon the forms. If you examine the question of forms, you will find that forms are spread out, all forms have some kind of special extension and they are spread out. The pot has a certain size, certain shape, it is spread out and the highest spacing out is the entire space. The whole of space, the whole of time, the totality of space and time is what is called Universal. The Transcendental is the essence and the Universal is the totality of space and time. Any particular form in space and time is called a particular. Any particular formation, for example, my golden ornaments, all of them are particular.

Now Islamic theology has it that man can never get to the essence of his creation. That is also the preceding Christian position that was known to the writer of the Koran. [The Jewish position in the Torah remains indeterminate].

The Vedic position is that each one of us was at one time in this particular state. In the highest condition the individual is free, the individual is one with the Supreme, he is aware of his oneness with the Supreme, he is aware of his universality.That it is possible to get back to our original condition.

So who would be the receiver of Divine Truth best in a position to make an undistorted transcription?
The one who has universalised his mind. In Islam the individual is always limited, That means he cannot universalize himself.

In the Veda [and in Gurbani] there is a special kind of formation �”� which you call individual [soul]. The speciality of the individual formation is that it is of the nature of a centration. There is a difference between particularisation and centration. You take any particular form, each particular form excludes the other form and every particular form has a certain limit, a boundary. But a centration is a centre whose circumference is everywhere, in other words whose circumference can shift, it is not especially exclusive. It is a centre of a very special nature, it is a centre in which the Transcendental is fully present and whose boundaries are so flexible that they can go on expanding and they can fill the whole of the universe. So every individual has this great capacity to become Universal. In fact one of the great messages of the highest wisdom is: “be wide, be Universal”. You can be Universal only if you are capable of universality and this would mean that whatever limitations you have are flexible. This is not true of the particulars. Of each particular object there is a limitation; the moment you expand it, that form breaks down, it no more remains. In the case of the individual this breaking down does not happen, you can expand, become as wide as the whole universe and yet you remain a centre. In the individual there is a centration and there is a circumference which is so flexible that it can become as wide as the universe. This individual is a very special kind of formation of the Transcendent himself, you might say the special power of the Supreme, of the Transcendental in which the whole of the Supreme is present in a centre and because of that reason, while it is a centre it is also as Supreme as the Supreme and can become as wide as the Universal, and yet can remain the centre. It is a very special kind of a centration. Such is the true nature of the individual.
Sri Aurobindo, The Life Divine, The Triple Transformation – Individual, Universal and Transcendental by Kireet Joshi

Gulati

On Friday, 3 March 2017 9:17 AM, Devinder Singh Gulati wrote:

>>> Aristotle declares, “All men may not have the same speech sounds, but the mental experiences which these directly symbolize, are the same for all.” <<<

>>> The issue of Truth and Divine Revelation has to be examined in the context of Language used for describing it. <<<

>>> We don’t know the Language in which God may have instructed Adam and Eve. [They did not know any] <<<

>>> In my analysis, God does not use any of the known Human Languages to instruct Man or other Living Beings. <<<

>>> However, it must be noted that painting pictures on the walls of caves or on the rocks may not fall in the category of writing. <<<

Painting is outcome of seeing, language of hearing.

THE ORIGIN OF LANGUAGE: Maya tribes of Central America developed an original, ideographic system of writing with which they recorded chronology, astronomy, history, and religion.

Ancient languages like Sanskrit developed alphabet where one letter symbolizes one phoneme or a significant sound. The major non-alphabetic forms of writing are Chinese, in which each character represents a word or concept, and Japanese, in which each character represents a syllable. It appears that writing arose independently in different parts of the world. Seven original systems of writing that can be recognized are, 1. Sumerian in Mesopotamia, 3100 B.C. to A.D. 75, 2. Proto-Elamite in Elam, 3000 B.C. to A.D. 400, 3. Egyptian in Egypt, 3000 B.C. to A.D. 400, 4. Proto-Indic in the Indus Valley around 2200 B.C., 5. Cretan in Crete and Greece, 2000 to 1200 B.C., 6. Chinese in China, 1300 B.C. to the present, and 7. Hittite in Anatolia and Syria, 1500 B.C. to 700 B.C. The original, ideographic, writing system of Maya tribes of Central America developed independently in their Pre-Classic Period( 1500 B.C. ? – A.D. 300).

THE ORIGIN OF LANGUAGE: Egyptian Hieroglyphic(Greek=Priestly writing) type of writing were already perfected in the first dynasty 3110 – 2884 B.C.

THE ORIGIN OF LANGUAGE: Proto-Indic in the Indus Valley, c. 2500 – c. 1500 B.C. flourished along the Indus River

The prophet of the Koran heard something. [He also saw Jibreel]

Was it in speech?

Moses saw and heard. Did he hear in Hebrew?

Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.”
4 When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!”
And Moses said, “Here I am.”
5 “Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.” 6 Then he said, “I am the God of your father,a]”>[a] the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.” At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God.
7 The Lord said, “I have indeed seen the misery of my people in Egypt. I have heard them crying out because of their slave drivers, and I am concerned about their suffering. 8 So I have come down to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land into a good and spacious land, a land flowing with milk and honey—the home of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 9 And now the cry of the Israelites has reached me, and I have seen the way the Egyptians are oppressing them. 10 So now, go. I am sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people the Israelites out of Egypt.”
11 But Moses said to God, “Who am I that I should go to Pharaoh and bring the Israelites out of Egypt?”
12 And God said, “I will be with you. And this will be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, youb]”>[b] will worship God on this mountain.”
13 Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?”
14 God said to Moses, “I am who I am.c]”>[c] This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’”
15 God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord,d]”>[d] the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’
“This is my name forever,
the name you shall call me
from generation to generation.

16 “Go, assemble the elders of Israel and say to them, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob—appeared to me and said: I have watched over you and have seen what has been done to you in Egypt. 17 And I have promised to bring you up out of your misery in Egypt into the land of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—a land flowing with milk and honey.’
18 “The elders of Israel will listen to you. Then you and the elders are to go to the king of Egypt and say to him, ‘The Lord, the God of the Hebrews, has met with us. Let us take a three-day journey into the wilderness to offer sacrifices to the Lord our God.’ 19 But I know that the king of Egypt will not let you go unless a mighty hand compels him. 20 So I will stretch out my hand and strike the Egyptians with all the wonders that I will perform among them. After that, he will let you go.
21 “And I will make the Egyptians favorably disposed toward this people, so that when you leave you will not go empty-handed. 22 Every woman is to ask her neighbor and any woman living in her house for articles of silver and gold and for clothing, which you will put on your sons and daughters. And so you will plunder the Egyptians.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+3

If God instructs intuitively and the receiving prophet transcribes it in a language known to him, does he transcribe with a colouring of his own. What was his psychological condition when Muhammad received his instruction which he transcribed thus:

[48:28] He is the One who sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, to make it prevail over all other religions. GOD suffices as a witness.

Obviously he was not looking for transcendence. That would go against his belief that man cannot equal God.
He was trying to understand. But he was not beyond belonging and esteem.

So when intuitive knowledge came, he gave his own colouring to it.
A man entirely beyond the esteem need would give a different colour to the same intuitive knowledge.

WHAT IS LANGUAGE?

On bhavanajagat.com

Language is a new phenomenon of Anatomically Modern Man identified by Science as Homo sapiens sapiens. The issue of Truth and Divine Revelation has to be examined in the context of Language used for describing it.

Most Muslims with whom I worked, do not read or write Arabic Language, the Language of Quran. Rather, they follow the traditions or customs associated with religion like praying five times facing in the direction of Mecca.

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We don’t know the Language in which God may have instructed Adam and Eve. Angels have spoken to Prophet Abraham and Moses, and they may have spoken in Hebrew Language which majority of Christians don’t understand. Many Biblical scholars think that Jesus used a local dialect whereas Bible is mostly written in Hebrew, Greek, and some Latin.

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In my analysis, God does not use any of the known Human Languages to instruct Man or other Living Beings. As such Life exists without using Faculty of Human Language. Living Cells communicate with each other using Chemical Molecules as Messengers.

Rudranarasimham Rebbapragada
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-4162 USA
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From: Devinder Singh Gulati

Faisal will not communicate. That is standard operating procedure. He finds it impossible to defend the Quran. So he will not venture to explain. But the Quran can be read by anyone online. Here is what Sura 48 says:

[48:28] He is the One who sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, to make it prevail over all other religions. GOD suffices as a witness.*

[48:29] Muhammad – the messenger of GOD – and those with him are harsh and stern against the disbelievers, but kind and compassionate amongst themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating, as they seek GOD’s blessings and approval. Their marks are on their faces, because of prostrating. This is the same example as in the Torah. Their example in the Gospel is like plants that grow taller and stronger, and please the farmers. He thus enrages the disbelievers. GOD promises those among them who believe, and lead a righteous life, forgiveness and a great recompense.

Sura 48, Victory (Al-Fatt-h) Quran The Final Testament, translated by Rashad Khalifa, Ph.D.

Many non-Muslims, simply assume without examination that the Koran, since it is a religious book, must teach peace, love, brotherhood, and compassion.
What does the Koran think of infidels and what does it teach for Muslims to do to them? Why?
Spencer: In the Koran the Infidels (kuffar) are, simply, those who reject Islam. They are those who do not believe in Muhammad’s message: they “treat it as a falsehood that they must meet Allah” (6:31) and “believe not in the Hereafter” (16:60). They “have bartered guidance for error” (2:16). They even dare to mock Muhammad in his proclamation of Islam. Allah tells his prophet, “When ye proclaim your call to prayer they take it (but) as mockery and sport; that is because they are a people without understanding” (5:58).
The Infidels are those who have made themselves enemies “to Allah, and His angels and His messengers, and Gabriel and Michael.” Allah himself, in turn, “is an enemy to the disbelievers” (2:98). And Satan and his minions are their friends: “Lo! We have made the devils protecting friends for those who believe not” (7:27). They are also, naturally enough, the enemies of the Muslims. Allah gives permission to the believers to shorten their prayers while traveling “for fear the unbelievers may attack you: for the unbelievers are unto you open enemies” (4:101).
Who specifically are Infidels? First there are polytheists (mushrikun), whom Allah particularly disdains for committing the cardinal sin of shirk – associating partners with Allah (2:105, 3:95, and many other passages identify the polytheists as apart from and opposed to Islam’s central monotheism).
There are also People of the Book – mostly Jews and Christians. Islamic apologists argue that Islam does not consider them Infidels, since the Koran never specifically identifies them as such. The Koran, they further note, speaks of the “unbelievers among the People of the Book” (59:2), implying that at least some People of the Book were believers, and therefore were not Infidels.
But who comprised this group among the People of the Book that the Koran identifies as believers? They were Jews and Christians who distinguished themselves by “believing” in one thing: that the Biblical prophets, as well as Jesus, preached Islam and anticipated Muhammad’s arrival — and thus they became Muslims when they heard about Islam. In other words, they were proto-Muslims who recognized that the true teachings of Moses and Jesus were identical to Muhammad’s teachings. Any Jews and Christians who rejected this idea and stayed true to their own religions were “unbelievers among the People of the Book” – and therefore Infidels.
The Koran consistently assumes that the Infidels are not people who have come to a good faith decision that Islam is false – neither the Koran nor Islamic tradition allows for the existence of such people. The Koran declares that “the Religion before Allah is Islam,” and that the People of the Book reject it only because of “envy of each other” (3:19). The Jews and Christians, says Maulana Bulandshahri, a twentieth-century Islamic scholar, recognized Muhammad “to be the final Prophet but their obstinate nature prevented them from accepting.”
Muslims have the responsibility to fight the Infidels (4:89, 2:191, 9:5) and subjugate the People of the Book under the rule of Islamic law (9:29).
The Complete Infidel’s Guide to the Koran – by Jamie Glazov

“The religion in the sight of God is Islam (Submission to God)” 3:19

On first impression, many who read the above statement will immediately say: Hold on! What about Judaism and Christianity? After all, these religions were also authorised by God!

So what does the believer say? All religions have been corrupted but Islam the final religion is beyond corruption:

Essentially, if there is only one religion decreed by God there must be One ‘truth’. Do we then conclude that there should be one revelation? The answer to this question is that ‘truth’ and ‘revelation’ are not absolutely equivalent terms. Because ‘truth’ is an absolute term it is situated independent of form, whereas revelations are relative to time, people and place, and thus require a form, but to speak of form is to speak of diversity and thus plurality.

The need for different revelations at different times and for different people is justified by means of the following:

1- Mankind has gone through enormous developments through the ages, physically, mentally and spiritually, and thus there was always the need for various revelations at different times for different peoples. Although various revelations are united in message and truth, we find that God never addresses identical revelations to peoples of different eras. This being so, it can be said that diverse revelations do not, and should not contradict one another, for although they differ in form, the religion decreed in all of them, which is Islam (Submission to God), is one and the same.

2- If there appears any apparent contradiction between different revelations, they are in human receptacles and not in the divine message. This is as a result of human inability to interpret such revelations and also due to the failure to preserve the ‘truth’ contained in the revelation, which always tends to be impaired and altered with the passing of time.

Ultimately, the apparent contradiction is no more than one between corrupt scripts as well as the interpretations of the original revelations, and not between the original revelations themselves.
Inevitably, and through corruption in the transfer and application of a Scripture, together with the social and cultural factors that always widen the gap between factions, we are left with a multitude of corrupt religions. These sub-religions in many ways hardly bare any resemblance to the original religion decreed by God.

For that, there becomes a necessity for mankind to receive another revelation that puts them back on track with God’s law which has been badly corrupted.

3- We find that up until the advent of the industrial revolution and the fast travel era, the world was still just a wide expanse of disjointed lands and peoples.
Many people would not have even heard of those Scriptures that had already been revealed in various other parts of the world. This is why a new Scripture would be revealed to new communities who had not received a Scripture.

However, after the revelation of the Quran, there became no need for any further revelations. Not because the message of the Quran is any different from the message of the Torah or the Gospel, but because of the following reasons:

a- A divine promise has been endorsed in the Quran that it will not be corrupted like previous Scriptures. As a result, if the message remains intact in one Scripture, there becomes no need for further revelations.
b- With the advent of the modern fast travel means of today, the whole world became a closer knit unit. People do not have to travel to hear or receive information, as it can be received through the numerous media channels that were not available a few centuries ago.
True Islam – Introduction to Islam

Gulati

On Wednesday, 1 March 2017 7:21 PM, Santhanagopalan P.T. wrote:

Refer to Gulati”s quotes from the Quran, I do not dispute their veracity, though I am no scholar of the Quran. I would like to know how Muslims in Tamilnadu integrated beautifully with the Hindus,with one of them being a scholar in the Tamil version of the Ramayana (Kamba Ramayana, the scholar being Justice M.M.Ismail).Most followers of any religion are not well-versed in their Holy Books. By and large,they just feel that their religion teaches them to be just and humane. Quoting specifics, without getting a feel of the whole,can only lead to tension.I can quote from the Purusha Sookta: “Brahmins are born from the face of the Lord,Kshatriyas from the arms, vaishyas from the thighs and shudras from the feet.” Is this just a prejudice of the Vedic religion or is there more to it? I understand it in the light of the Bhagavat Gita, in which Krishna says that the four varnas are based upon the characteristics (Gunas) and the functions (karma) allotted to them.If Islam were that bad, one would find it hard to explain the Sufi phenomenon.
Communication can be tried. No harm done.

From: Devinder Singh Gulati

Please explain sura 3


[3:18] GOD bears witness that there is no god except He, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute god; there is no god but He, the Almighty, Most Wise.

[3:19] The only religion approved by GOD is “Submission” [Islam]. For rejectors of GOD’s revelations, GOD is most strict in reckoning.



[3:28] The believers never ally themselves with the disbelievers, instead of the believers. Whoever does this is exiled from GOD

[3:32] Proclaim: “You shall obey GOD and the messenger.” If they turn away, GOD does not love the disbelievers.

[3:73] “And do not believe except as those who follow your religion.” Say, “The true guidance is GOD’s guidance.”

[3:85] Anyone who accepts other than Submission [Islam] as his religion, it will not be accepted from him, and in the Hereafter


[3:110] You are the best community ever raised among the people: you advocate righteousness and forbid evil, and you believe in GOD. If the followers of the scripture believed, it would be better for them. Some of them do believe, but the majority of them are wicked.

[3:112] They shall be humiliated whenever you encounter them, unless they uphold GOD’s covenant, as well as their peace covenants with you. They have incurred wrath from GOD, and, consequently, they are committed to disgrace. This is because they rejected GOD’s revelations, and killed the prophets unjustly. This is because they disobeyed and transgressed.

[3:118] O you who believe, do not befriend outsiders who never cease to wish you harm; they even wish to see you suffer. Hatred flows out of their mouths and what they hide in their chests is far worse. We thus clarify the revelations for you, if you understand.


[3:119] Here you are loving them, while they do not love you, and you believe in all the scripture. When they meet you they say, “We believe,” but as soon as they leave, they bite their fingers out of rage towards you.

[3:149] O you who believe, if you obey those who disbelieve, they will turn you back on your heels, then you end up losers.



http://godsmosque.org/html/quran/sura3.html


With such belief can anyone be at peace with others?

Gulati

On Mon, 02/27/17, Faisal Khan wrote:

The Peace March started form Sabarmati Ashram
and completed at Jagannath Mandir. In this peace march
different people of different places of the country
participated. senior Gandhian Amrit Modi started the march
after a peace prayer in Sabarmati Ashram. On this occasion
Khudai khidmatgar national convener Faisal Khan said,
“on the 127th Birthday
of the founder of Khudai Khidmatgar”, “there could
be no better tribute that we spread his message of love and
trust among people and convince them the real purpose of
religion that is peace. He further said
“we
have decided to start the March from Sabarmati Ashram
because from here Mahatma Gandhi rose with call for peace
and brotherhood”. He also said “We
will march for around 7 kms to Shri Jagannath Mandir in
Jamalpur. Because It was the Mandir from where Khan Abdul
Ghaffar khan fought against the menace of communalism when
the town was on fire in 1969 and created example of
peace. He also said that these days in the
name of religion and community there is a lot of hate
mongering, this has created mistrust and distanced us from
each other. Due to these activities lack of vision and the
worst affected are those at the bottom of the
pyramid. The very soul of religion is
wounded.

Lok Samiti leader Neeta Mahadev said
“the purpose of
religion to promote humanity and the ideals of morality,
honesty, friendship, compassion and service among its
followers. Khudai Khidmatgar a s an organisation with
the ideology of promoting humanity and peace among all in
the society”.

Khudai
Khidmatgars Vijay Deshpande from
Maharshtra, Hasnian
Beg from
Delhi, Balwant
Yadav from
Haryana and Shabbir
Hussain from Jammu and
Kashmir, Dheemnat Badhia
from Imam Manzil,
Khudai Khidmatgar Gujrat volunteers Ila ben, Sarfarz
Mansoori ,Kaleem Khan, Kayyoom Khan, Ahmedbad Eid Meeladun
Nabi committee’s president Shaikh Hussain, Gujrat
Vidyapeeth studenst Hardik Rawal and hundreds of students,
activists, Gandhian participated . youth participated with
enthusiasm and distributed thousands pamphlets of peace and
harmony in the way at Kocharb ashram, Jagannath Mandir. and
Basant -Rajab smarak . Public meetings was also held at
sabarmati , kochrab ashram , income tax chauraha , jamalpur
modh and Basant -Rajab
smarak . At the end
of Peace March large meeting was held and people of all
community more then 200 people had had lunch at Jagannath
Mandir with which the march concluded successfully.
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Route of the March was – Vadan Circle-Income Tax – Kochrab Ashram,
-Sardar Brij-Phool Mandir – Gaikwad Haveli -Vasant Rao-Rajab Samrak- Jamalpur, Shree Jagannath Mandir.

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INFINITE GOD CREATED FINITE WORLD

This article is in response to a claim about Samkhya or Sankhya Doctrine found in ‘GURBANI’ Holy Book of Sikhism. Firstly, I state that I have not met any person of Sikh faith who may not believe in existence of Infinite God. Because of that Belief or Faith, they attend Worship Service to seek wisdom of Guru with sense of devotion, respect, obedience, and humility.

Secondly, to discuss the validity of Samkhya or Sankhya doctrine, I have to discuss each term used in conversation. For example, the term ‘AKASA’ simply refers to Earthly phenomenon and it demands interaction between Light rays and Earthly atmosphere apart from presence of living things with faculties of Sense Perception.

WHAT IS PRAKRTI OR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT?

I ask my readers to reflect on one particular term at a time to focus on the subject matter. Again, my concern is not about God’s existence. There is not even one term used by Sankhya Doctrine that is inferentially correct. For example, the understanding of ‘PRAKRTI’ or Nature or Natural Environment is flawed. Every living thing establishes its own existence by separating itself from its external environment. Every Living Cell functions by separating itself from other Living Cells even if all the Cells represent the same Living Organism. Prakrti refers to external, environment of specific Living Things. In modern Science it includes Physical, Social, Cultural, Political, Economic, and Biological Environment. Other Living Things present in my Environment determine my Actions and my Human Behavior. While ‘PURUSHA’ is an individualized term, Prakrit includes other Purushas and all other Living Things including Bacteria and Viruses.

For each Living Thing exists as Individual with Individuality, Self-Identity, Self-Recognition, Ego, and Ahamkara is prerequisite for sustaining reality of existence.

Rudranarasimham Rebbapragada
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-4162 USA
BHAVANAJAGAT.ORG

From: DEVINDER SINGH GULATI:

The Sankhya doctrine does take reason into account. It considers perception, inference and reliable testimony as three reliable means to knowledge.

The Samkhya system espouses dualism between consciousness and matter by postulating two “irreducible, innate and independent realities: puruṣa and prakṛti. While the prakṛti is a single entity, the Samkhya admits a plurality of the puruṣas in this world. Unintelligent, unmanifest, uncaused, ever-active, imperceptible and eternal prakṛti is alone the final source of the world of objects which is implicitly and potentially contained in its bosom. The puruṣa is considered as the conscious principle, a passive enjoyer (bhokta) and the prakṛti is the enjoyed (bhogya). Samkhya believes that the puruṣa cannot be regarded as the source of inanimate world, because an intelligent principle cannot transform itself into the unconscious world.

Prakṛti is the first cause of the manifest material universe — of everything except the puruṣa. Prakṛti accounts for whatever is physical, both mind and matter-cum-energy or force. Since it is the first principle (tattva) of the universe, it is called the pradhāna, but, as it is the unconscious and unintelligent principle, it is also called the jaDa. It is composed of three essential characteristics (trigunas). These are:

• Sattva – poise, fineness, lightness, illumination, and joy;
• Rajas – dynamism, activity, excitation, and pain;

Tamas – inertia, coarseness, heaviness, obstruction, and sloth.
The unconscious primordial materiality, prakṛti, contains 23 components including intellect (buddhi,mahat), ego (ahamkara) and mind (manas); the intellect, mind and ego are all seen as forms of unconscious matter.

Some evolutes of prakṛti can cause further evolution and are labelled evolvents. For example, intellect while itself created out of prakṛti causes the evolution of ego-sense or ahamkara and is therefore an evolvent. While, other evolutes like the five elements do not cause further evolution. It is important to note that an evolvent is defined as a principle which behaves as the material cause for the evolution of another principle. So, in definition, while the five elements are the material cause of all living beings, they cannot be called evolvents because living beings are not separate from the five elements in essence.

The intellect is the first evolute of prakṛti and is called mahat or the great one. It causes the evolution of ego-sense or self-consciousness. Evolution from self-consciousness is affected by the dominance of gunas. So dominance of sattva causes the evolution of the five organs of perception, five organs of action and the mind. Dominance of tamas triggers the evolution of five subtle elements– sound, touch, sight, taste, smell from self-consciousness. These five subtle elements are themselves evolvents and cause the creation of the five gross elements space, air, fire, water and earth. Rajas is cause of action in the evolutes.] Purusha is pure consciousness absolute, eternal and subject to no change. It is neither a product of evolution, nor the cause of any evolute.

Samkhya regards ignorance (avidyā) as the root cause of suffering and bondage (Samsara). Samkhya states that the way out of this suffering is through knowledge (viveka). Mokṣa (liberation), states Samkhya school, results from knowing the difference between prakṛti (avyakta-vyakta) and puruṣa (jña).
Other forms of Samkhya teach that Mokṣa is attained by one’s own development of the higher faculties of discrimination achieved by meditation and other yogic practices. Moksha is described by Samkhya scholars as a state of liberation, where Sattva guna predominates.

Classical Samkhya argues against the existence of God on metaphysical grounds. The following arguments were given by the Samkhya philosophers against the idea of an eternal, self-caused, creator God:

• If the existence of karma is assumed, the proposition of God as a moral governor of the universe is unnecessary. For, if God enforces the consequences of actions then he can do so without karma. If however, he is assumed to be within the law of karma, then karma itself would be the giver of consequences and there would be no need of a God.
• Even if karma is denied, God still cannot be the enforcer of consequences. Because the motives of an enforcer God would be either egoistic or altruistic. Now, God’s motives cannot be assumed to be altruistic because an altruistic God would not create a world so full of suffering. If his motives are assumed to be egoistic, then God must be thought to have desire, as agency or authority cannot be established in the absence of desire. However, assuming that God has desire would contradict God’s eternal freedom which necessitates no compulsion in actions. Moreover, desire, according to Samkhya, is an attribute of prakṛti and cannot be thought to grow in God. The testimony of the Vedas, according to Samkhya, also confirms this notion.
• Despite arguments to the contrary, if God is still assumed to contain unfulfilled desires, this would cause him to suffer pain and other similar human experiences. Such a worldly God would be no better than Samkhya’s notion of higher self.
• Furthermore, there is no proof of the existence of God. He is not the object of perception, there exists no general proposition that can prove him by inference and the testimony of the Vedas speak of prakṛti as the origin of the world, not God.

Therefore, Samkhya maintained that the various cosmological, ontological and teleological arguments could not prove God.

Samkhya – Wikipedia

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WELCOME TO GENERAL BIPIN RAWAT, NEW INDIAN ARMY CHIEF

On www.india.com

On behalf of Special Frontier Force, I extend hearty welcome to General Bipin Rawat, new Indian Army Chief. Also delighted to welcome new Indian Air Chief, Air Marshal Birender Singh Dhanoa.

Rudranarasimham Rebbapragada
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-4162 USA
SPECIAL FRONTIER FORCE

On www.thestatesman.com

I AM THE NEW ARMY BOSS PREPARE FOR WAR

India must prepared for war, more surgical strikes against Pakistan possible’

Dynamics of terrorism is constantly changing; Army must think ahead in that direction

Two-front war is a real scenario, says General Bipin Rawat

1. Lt Gen Bipin Rawat joined the Indian Army in December 1978.
2. Rawat won the Sword of Honour when he graduated from the Indian Military Academy in 1978.
3. He is second consecutive chief from the Gorkha Rifles.

Lt Gen Bipin Rawat has taken over as the head of the 1.3 million strong Indian Army, succeeding General Dalbir Singh Suhag. Rawat, whose appointment had kicked up a row, was designated as Army chief by the ruling NDA government ignoring protests from opposition including Congress.

Rawat, a Gurkha officer is the 27th Chief of the armed forces. He superseded two senior most Lt Generals, Praveen Bakshi and PM Hariz as the 26th Army Chief of India. Air Marshal Birender Singh Dhanoa also took charge as the next Air Force Chief replacing Anup Raha.

Rawat, who learnt his art in Kashmir and the northeast, headed the Indian brigade during the UN peacekeeping operation in the Democratic Republic of the Congo in 2008. Indian peacekeepers performed splendidly under his leadership. The general is credited with providing dynamic leadership under the UN banner. The Indian peacekeepers switched their approach from a velvet glove to an iron fist under his leadership.

Earlier in the day, outgoing Army Chief General Dalbir Singh and Air Force Chief Anup Raha paid tributes at Amar Jawan Jyoti in New Delhi’s India Gate and also inspected the guard of honour.

“I salute our martyrs who made supreme sacrifices in upholding honour of the nation,”Gen Dalbir Singh said while speaking to the media.
Good principle, “action must speak louder” is itself displaying his valour. Appreciate !ShashiKumar KB

He also thanked government and Prime Minister Narendra Modi for ‘their full support and giving free hand in conducting the operations’. He further thanked the government for ‘granting One Rank One Pension to armed forces’.

“Indian Army is fully prepared and well trained to tackle any challenges, be it external or internal. I strongly believe that actions must speak louder than words,” he said.
India must prepared for war, more surgical strikes against Pakistan possible’

Army Chief Gen. Bipin Rawat In a major statement, Indian Army Chief Bipin Rawat on Tuesday said that further strikes against Pakistan can’t be ruled out.
“Further surgical strikes against Pakistan can’t be ruled out; the strikes were meant to send out message,” Army Chief Bipin Rawat said in a conversation with NDTV.
The statement by the new Army Chief comes two days after he said that the role of the force is to maintain peace and tranquillity at the border but it will not shy away from flexing its muscles, if the need be.
Also, talking to news agency ANI, Rawat said, “Want to modernise operational logistics, ammunition depots being modernised, computerisation of ordnance inventory being done.”
On OROP, Rawat said, “Demands till a certain extent fulfilled, would like to urge those veterans sitting at Jantar Mantar to return home.”
Priorities
“My 1st priority is to boost Indian Army’s moral and make every jawan believe that they empower our force,” Army chief Gen Bipin Rawat told ANI.
“2nd priority is to technologically advance and modernise equipment and weapons, so that jawans protect borders even better,” Rawat added.
Ready for wars
“PM Narendra Modi had said that the wars in future will be brief and intense, we are ready for it; staying alert is important,” Rawat said. (PM ne bhi kaha tha jo aane waaley yudhh hongey, intense aur chhote honge, is ke liye hum tayyar hain…satark rehna zaroori hai)
On war
“We’re always ready for war, it’s our job but life of civilians in border areas will be badly affected by such things,” Army chief Gen Bipin Rawat said.
“We are emphasising on army aviation, want to include armed, attack helicopters here,” Rawat added.
Gen Rawat
Rawat took over as the 27th Army chief on Saturday.
General Rawat had superseded two senior most Lt Generals — Praveen Bakshi and P M Hariz.

• Two-front war is a real scenario, says General Bipin Rawat
  • Gen Bipin Rawat has warned Pakistan that it should cease and desist from actively aiding and abetting cross-border infiltration and terrorism
  • The surgical strikes achieved good success, the aim and intention was fully achieved: Army chief

  

• Army chief Gen Bipin Rawat New Army chief General Bipin Rawat has warned Pakistan that it should stop aiding and abetting cross-border infiltration and terrorism, saying that his 1.3-million strong force has the requisite will, intelligence and capability to destroy terror wherever it emanates.

  Pointing to the “surgical strikes” conducted by the Army on terror launch pads in PoK on September 29, Rawat told TOI in an exclusive interview on Tuesday: “The operation’s unequivocal message was we have the capability, we are aware of the terror infrastructure that lies across the border and intelligence is forthcoming.”
  “If the need arises… we can strike effectively. The surgical strikes achieved good success. The aim and intention was fully achieved. We are not a war mongering nation but there are certain thresholds that shouldn’t be crossed. Our response will vary,” he said.

  Though there has been some de-escalation along the line of control (LoC) after massive retaliatory fire assaults by the Indian Army and Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa taking over the reins of the Pakistan army from Gen Raheel Sharif, there are still about 20 terror-training camps running at full capacity in PoK and Pakistan.

  Apart from the different options available to take the battle to the terrorists and their handlers, the Army chief was also quite sanguine about the Indian armed forces being capable of handling a two front contingency in the backdrop of the collusive threat from Pakistan and China.

  Gen Rawat, who took over as the 27th Army chief from Gen Dalbir Singh Suhag on December 31, said, “The two-front is a real scenario. Much has changed from before in terms of our capabilities…The Army, Navy and IAF are now jointly very much prepared for such an eventuality .”

  Apart from the development of the Agni-V and Agni-IV nuclear-capable ballistic missiles, the forces have taken a series of steps to slowly but surely transform the “dissuasion” posture against China into “deterrence”, which in turn is now being upgraded to “credible deterrence”.

  The Army is also raising the new 17 Mountain Strike Corps, which with 90,274 soldiers will have two high-altitude infantry divisions.

  While India wants cooperation, not confrontation with China, the new corps will ensure “quick-reaction ground offensive capabilities” on the “northern borders” for the first time. “The raisings for the new corps are underway, while weapons and equipment are also being acquired. The infrastructure is also coming up. There is full support from the government. All adversaries respect strength, which comes from having the capability to strike across the border,” said Gen Rawat. we are in safe hands

  
  The Army chief did, however, acknowledge the excruciating slow progress of infrastructure development in construction of 73 all-weather roads along the line of actual control with China as well as the 14 “strategic” railway lines on the two fronts. While the rail lines only exist on paper, only 22 of the 73 roads have been completed over a decade after they were first identified.

  “But there is a renewed impetus now. The government has reorganized the BRO, including shifting it to the defence ministry from the ministry of road transport.Technology is also being increasingly used. Tunneling is also being examined for not only road connectivity , but also command and control centers and storage,” he said.

Dynamics of terrorism is constantly changing; Army must think ahead in that direction: Army Chief Bipin Rawat

Highlights

1. General Bipin Rawat said the country and the force want to maintain peace and tranquility at the border.
2. Indian Army will not shy away from a second surgical strike if peace in the region is disrupted, Gen Rawat said

Army Chief Bipin Rawat

Army Chief Bipin Rawat on Monday said that dynamics of terrorism is constantly changing, and that Army must think ahead in that direction.

“The fact that terrorists infiltrating from adversary’s side means that they are getting support from them (Pakistani forces),” the Army Chief said in an exclusive interview with the Times Now.

“We also have to think ahead, and ball has already rolling in that direction,” the new Army Chief said.

On surgical strikes, Rawat said that it was well thought through operation and India has sent across a message with the strikes that attacks won’t be tolerated.

He further said Indian Army will not shy away from a second surgical strike if peace in the region is disrupted.

The new Army chief also lauded the soldiers and officers who serve in the most challenging terrains, including those who have fought insurgency.

On superseding two of his seniors, General Rawat said he accepted the government’s decision to appoint him as the chief with all humility. He said he has tremendous support from two of his senior officers, and that in the Army they are taught to work for the organisation. General Rawat said his selection has come as a surprise for him.

One thing is clear this general means business….He was also involved in the planning of well executed surgical strike in September.Jitendra Chaturvedi

General Rawat had superseded two senior most Lt Generals –Praveen Bakshi and P M Hariz. General Bipin Rawat had yesterday taken over as the 27th chief of the 1.3 million strong Indian Army succeeding General Dalbir Singh Suhag, who retired after 42 years of service.

On caravandaily.com

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