RATIONALISM vs IRRATIONALISM – IGNORANCE IS BLISS


RATIONALISM vs IRRATIONALISM – IGNORANCE IS BLISS

RATIONALISM vs IRRATIONALISM – IGNORANCE IS BLISS.

Man can describe the reality of the World and Universe as much as he likes. However, Man cannot impart that Knowledge to the Building Blocks of his own body. Man’s existence is not accounted by his mental concepts or philosophical doctrines. To support Man’s existence in Physical World and Universe, God imposed a permanent Barrier called Ignorance that separates Man from Reality of World and Universe. From human perspective, Sun’s Ecliptic is real giving Man opportunity to mark Days of his Life’s Journey on Earth.

Rationalism vs Irrationalism – Ignorance is Bliss. From Man’s perspective, Sun’s Ecliptic Path is Real.On wholedude.com

SYNCHRONIZATION OF BIOLOGICAL RHYTHMS WITH SUNRISE AND SUNSET

Rationalism vs Irrationalism – Ignorance is Bliss. From Man’s perspective, Sun’s apparent motions are Real while Man lives ignorant of Earth’s Motions.

Apparent motions of celestial bodies shape Man’s Journey on Earth’s Surface while Man lives Blissfully ignorant of Earth’s Motions. No Religion, No Science, No Philosophy can overcome this Ignorance to give Human Body direct sensory experience of Earth’s Real Motions.

Rudranarasimham Rebbapragada

Ann Arbor, MI 48104-4162 USA
BHAVANAJAGAT.ORG

Guru Nanak proclaimed that this universe is real, not an illusion as suggested by some other religions. “Real are Thy continents; Real is the universe; Real are these forms and material objects; Thy doings are Real, O Lord.” Guru Nanak calls the universe as His chamber when he writes, “Eh jag sache ki hai kothri. Sache ka vich vaas”(AGGS, M 2, p. 463).

Guru Teg Bahadur at page 1429 of the Guru Granth Saheb:
inj kir dyiKE jgqu mY ko kwhU ko nwih ]
nij kar dhaekhiou jagath mai ko kaahoo ko naahi ||
I had looked upon the world as my own, but no one belongs to anyone else.

nwnk iQru hir Bgiq hY iqh rwKo mn mwih ]48]
naanak thhir har bhagath hai thih raakho man maahi ||48||
O Nanak, only devotional worship of the Lord is permanent; enshrine this in your mind. ||48||

jg rcnw sB JUT hY jwin lyhu ry mIq ]
jag rachanaa sabh jhooth hai jaan laehu rae meeth ||
The world and its affairs are totally false; know this well, my friend.

kih nwnk iQru nw rhY ijau bwlU kI BIiq ]49]
kehi naanak thhir naa rehai jio baaloo kee bheeth ||49||
Says Nanak, it is like a wall of sand; it shall not endure. ||49||

There is nothing contradictory in these two statements. these are the two faces if the same reality; Guru Nanak mentions of the reality of created world which certainly is real. God created a real world. The second view relates to the principle of change. The entire universe is continuously changing and never remains the same. What is now will not be the same after sometime. Those who consider themselves ever-living or ever ruling the world are living in fool’s paradise. No one can survive beyond a time. The Change changes everyone continuously change one form changes into another.

Prof Dalvinder Singh Grewal,

1925, Basant Avenue Ludhiana

From: “Devindersingh Gulati

There are three modifications to Vedantic thought. Vedanta is one of the six Indian thought systems. The basic premise of Vedanta is: the world is different yet not different from the one sole reality. According to the Bhedābheda view, Brahman converts itself into the created, but yet maintains a distinct identity. Thus, the school holds that Brahman is both different (bheda) and not different (abheda) from creation and the individual jīva.

The first modification to this premise was brought by Shankara in the eight century that goes by the name Advaita. A second modification was brought by Ramanuja in the eleventh century that goes by the name Vishishtadvaita. Advaita says (like Guru Teg Bahadur) the world is an illusion, Visistadvaita says (like Guru Angad) the world is real. Advaita says (like Gurbani) Jivatma and Paramatma are the same, Visistadvaita says Jivatma and Paramatma have a body-soul relationship. Advaita says that the supreme Brahman is Nirguna, Visistadvaita says the supreme Brahman is Saguna.

Gurbani says the Divine is both Nirgun and Sargun.

A third modification was brought in by Madhva in the thirteenth century that is called Dvaita. On his account, Brahman is a personal God. According to Madhva, reality is characterized by a five fold difference: (i) jīvas (individual persons) are different from God; (ii) jīvas are also different from each other; (iii) inanimate objects are different from God; (iv) inanimate objects are different from other inanimate objects; (v) inanimate objects are different from jīvas (Mahābhāratatātparnirnayaḥ, I. 70-71).

Gurbani clearly differs from Madhva’s perspective.

The Vedanta also says like Gurbani that all is the one. Yet there are differing stances within Vedanta that are all valid schools of thought.

It appears to me that the differing perspectives come from the different angles of viewing the Divine. Guru Nanak affirms that God is unknowable. He has been known in some aspects by the various Bhagats and Gurus that are limited perspectives. To employ Rudranarsimham’s metaphor. if you view the sun from the sun itself, there is no sunrise or sunset as when you view it from earth. But when you view it from the moon, there is only daylight or only darkness, depending on where on the moon you are situated. So let us concede that the Gurbani’s perspective is also a viewpoint; a valid one, that does not invalidate other viewpoints.

On 24 Dec 2016 15:08, “R.Rudranarasimham” wrote:

UNCHANGING PRINCIPLE IN CHANGING WORLD

Rationalism vs Irrationalism – Ignorance is Bliss. Human Organism has no direct sensory perception of Motions of Earth or of Sun. On wholedude.com

Sun when viewed as part of vast Universe, Sun experiences no Sunrise and Sunset. The phenomenon of Sunrise and Sunset belong to World where man keeps his conditioned existence.

This Unchanging Reality of Sun has to be contrasted with man’s experience of Day and Night that measures man’s lifespan on earth or World. If Day and Night are products of Illusion, man’s mortality is the product of Illusion.

Rudranarasimham Rebbapragada
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-4162 USA
BHAVANAJAGAT.ORG

From: Devindersingh Gulati

Here is an excerpt from a paper by Daya Singh Sandhu.

Guru Nanak also proclaimed that this universe is real, not an illusion as suggested by some other religions. “Real are Thy continents; Real is the universe; Real are these forms and material objects; Thy doings are Real, O Lord.” Guru Nanak calls the universe as His chamber when he writes, “Eh jag sache ki hai kothri. Sache ka vich vaas”(AGGS, M 2, p. 463).

Sikhism: The Post-Modern Religion of the World

Sikhism: The Post-Modern Religion of the World

And here is an excerpt from Guru Teg Bahadur at page 1429 of the Guru Granth Saheb:

inj kir dyiKE jgqu mY ko kwhU ko nwih ]
nij kar dhaekhiou jagath mai ko kaahoo ko naahi ||
I had looked upon the world as my own, but no one belongs to anyone else.

nwnk iQru hir Bgiq hY iqh rwKo mn mwih ]48]
naanak thhir har bhagath hai thih raakho man maahi ||48||
O Nanak, only devotional worship of the Lord is permanent; enshrine this in your mind. ||48||

jg rcnw sB JUT hY jwin lyhu ry mIq ]
jag rachanaa sabh jhooth hai jaan laehu rae meeth ||
The world and its affairs are totally false; know this well, my friend.

kih nwnk iQru nw rhY ijau bwlU kI BIiq ]49]
kehi naanak thhir naa rehai jio baaloo kee bheeth ||49||
Says Nanak, it is like a wall of sand; it shall not endure. ||49||

rwmu gieE rwvnu gieE jw kau bhu prvwru ]
raam gaeiou raavan gaeiou jaa ko bahu paravaar ||
Raam Chand passed away, as did Raawan, even though he had lots of relatives.

khu nwnk iQru kCu nhI supny ijau sMswru ]50]
kahu naanak thhir kashh nehee supanae jio sansaar ||50||
Says Nanak, nothing lasts forever; the world is like a dream. ||50||

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/ threads/gurbani-kirtan-23- salok-mahala-9.14457/

Will someone explain the apparent contradiction.

Gulati

Rationalism vs Irrationalism – Ignorance is Bliss. If Sunrise and Sunset are products of Illusion, Man’s Mortality is the product of Illusion. Man’s Flight at the end of Lifetime. On bhavanajagat.com
Rationalism vs Irrationalism – Ignorance is Bliss. Sun’s Ecliptic Path is Real for Man is ignorant of Earth’s Motions. On bhavanajagat.com

 

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